BECsufferer
02-13 06:52 PM
FYI .. This post is what I received in e-mail few days back.
I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of
the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing
legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and Chinese and other H-1B visa holders.
While it is agreeable that the current economic downturn is the worst one has seen.
It is time to band together with what resources we have and make it thru this perfect
storm. However, the machinations of a few politicians and the further connivance of the
USCIS, we are about to see a systematic 'legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and other
foreign professionals'.
Leaders of the ethnic Indian community should take up this issue. Leading Indian attorneys
such as Chugh Firm, Khanna Firm, Sheela Murthy, and leaders like Dr. Romesh Japra and
Yogi Chugh etc should do something about this with their contacts at the highest levels.
How is this happening and why is it ethnic cleansing?
Since 1990's every year several thousands of Indian professionals come to the US. Because of
delay in processing of their Green Cards a vast majority of them are on H-1B.
With the current downturn, Sen. Grassley et all have raised such a stink that companies are
forced to lay off H-1b holders first before they lay off any other US employees. While the US
employers may not always do this. They are being shamed into revealing how they laid off
US Citizens before laying off others. Net Net....Indian professionals are being laid off from
large companies (ofcourse, along with layoffs of US citizens and Green card holders as well).
Now, having been laid off, H-1b holders are forced to leave the country within 10 days if they
do not find another job. Now, many are forced to leave the US as they cannot sustain living
in the US. However, some enterprising few are finding lower paying jobs or are finding so called
'body shopping companies' to file their H-1b transfer in anticipation of staying around till the
economy improves and they can find suitable jobs. Here is when the systematic targetting and
ethnic cleansing is coming to the fore. The USCIS in the past which did not, out of the ordinary
question such H-1b transfers. is raising Request for Evidence (RFE) from these companies.
These RFEs are raised in such a way that it is impossible to answer them. They are thus
not only targetting the H-1b candidates, they are systematically undermining the people
(companies) who want to help out H-1b candidates out of their predicament of being stranded.
Imagine living in the US for the past 8 years. Owning a home, then getting in line for the
Green Card. You are close to getting the green card but because of backlog you only get
what is called the Employment Authorization Card (EAD). So, you continue to be on H-1b status.
Then your employer fires you....
There are two paths here.....Technically, with a EAD card you can get employment anywhere
with what is called US AC21 Portability.However, AC21 EAD portability comes with the need
that a person with EAD should have another job with the exact same profile and same salary.
In this market who is going to give you a job with this exact profile as your old job. The only
way for a person to stay on 'legally' is to file a backup H-1b.
Thus a person in the 'last stages' of his green card also actually ends up joining a fresh h-1b
software professional.
Now, what will the USCIS do? They will ensure that they find some issue with the RFE response
provided by the 'body shopping company' and issue a denial of H-1b extension.
The body shopping companies are trying to be the Raoul Wallenbergs (helping with visa when a
person is in distress - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg). However, the USCIS will
ensure that literally hundred thousand Indian and Chinese professionals are kicked out of the
US. The same professionals who came to US to contribute to its success will now be kicked
out of US against their wish. The companies who are willing to help them will also be harassed
in the bargain, some of those companies will be investigated for non-payment of wages, some
of them will be subjected to USCIS audits for trying to help these helpless people whose lives
are being uprooted.....I am not in any way saying that lives of US citizens is not being uprooted.
These are very tough times and there is no reason to pick on the helpless, unrepresented people.
This is as un-american as it gets. US is famous for its chivalry. Over 5000 lives have been sacrificed
in Iraq to foster democracy and fairness in that part of the world. This is an un-American as it gets.
This is a planned lynching and killing of the 'spirit' of the foreign worker who came to US dreaming
of making it the American dream and participating/contributing to its success.
What should the USCIS do?
Given the tough times...They should allow people to stay on in the US as long as another
employer is willing to keep them in status. They should not question the H-1b applications as
everyone knows that USCIS can find issues with every single H-1b extension filed right now
with their respective offices. As someone said - Rejecting a H1b now is like issuing speeding
tickets at INDY 500. Even the largest companies such as Microsoft and IBM can have their
H-1b applications rejected by the USCIS with the silliest of excuse.
What is in it for the USCIS not to do this ethnic cleansing?
Long term vision for America not just right now. This year the US Embassies in India issued over
98,000 visas to students from India. These are students who are paying their way thru education
in the US (a country with the most expensive but best education). If it turns out that US specifically
targets Indians for 'special h-1b rejection treatment' literally half of them will never aspire to come
to the US within the next 2 or 3 years.
Right now the economy is bad, but it will improve: It is a 'perfect storm' right now which is causing
this downturn. The economy will surely improve in the next few quarters. There will then be new
sectors of the economy that will boom that will need professionals. There will be enough work by then
for these H-1b professionals as well as US residents.
Confident and free people contribute positively:
If the word spreads that even in bad times this society did not turn on them then the US people
will be appreciated. But, if the message is, when you are down they will kick you where it
hurts, then this society will not succeed. Just imagine, there are at least 250,000 (maybe more) people of Indian
and Asian origin who would end up buying a house if they knew for sure that they could continue
to live without the fear of being 'ethnically cleansed'. Most Indians and Asians save money and do
not splurge. Just this measure of confidence will ensure that they will spend money in the US
economy. Just their contributions will ensure that there is a bump in the housing sector.
Finally, As they say - "Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it". The US
is perpetrating a betrayal of people who could contribute to its success in the long run. But, what they are
getting is a form of 'systematic and legally driven ethnic cleansing' - they are being identified and
driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....
God Bless America....God Save America from 'some' of its own people.
Thanks.
Dude;
This is called natural correction. Read other posts and you would realize that for last 10 yrs majority of these so called IT programmers didn't even go to proper engineering college. More than half of them weren't even qualified to do the jobs. And than most of them came here and sat on bench, even though their actual jobs were still being searched or finalized. This system was mis-used and abused. Now it's time to pay for it!
So thank God this is happening and hope USCIS does good job this time.
I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of
the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing
legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and Chinese and other H-1B visa holders.
While it is agreeable that the current economic downturn is the worst one has seen.
It is time to band together with what resources we have and make it thru this perfect
storm. However, the machinations of a few politicians and the further connivance of the
USCIS, we are about to see a systematic 'legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and other
foreign professionals'.
Leaders of the ethnic Indian community should take up this issue. Leading Indian attorneys
such as Chugh Firm, Khanna Firm, Sheela Murthy, and leaders like Dr. Romesh Japra and
Yogi Chugh etc should do something about this with their contacts at the highest levels.
How is this happening and why is it ethnic cleansing?
Since 1990's every year several thousands of Indian professionals come to the US. Because of
delay in processing of their Green Cards a vast majority of them are on H-1B.
With the current downturn, Sen. Grassley et all have raised such a stink that companies are
forced to lay off H-1b holders first before they lay off any other US employees. While the US
employers may not always do this. They are being shamed into revealing how they laid off
US Citizens before laying off others. Net Net....Indian professionals are being laid off from
large companies (ofcourse, along with layoffs of US citizens and Green card holders as well).
Now, having been laid off, H-1b holders are forced to leave the country within 10 days if they
do not find another job. Now, many are forced to leave the US as they cannot sustain living
in the US. However, some enterprising few are finding lower paying jobs or are finding so called
'body shopping companies' to file their H-1b transfer in anticipation of staying around till the
economy improves and they can find suitable jobs. Here is when the systematic targetting and
ethnic cleansing is coming to the fore. The USCIS in the past which did not, out of the ordinary
question such H-1b transfers. is raising Request for Evidence (RFE) from these companies.
These RFEs are raised in such a way that it is impossible to answer them. They are thus
not only targetting the H-1b candidates, they are systematically undermining the people
(companies) who want to help out H-1b candidates out of their predicament of being stranded.
Imagine living in the US for the past 8 years. Owning a home, then getting in line for the
Green Card. You are close to getting the green card but because of backlog you only get
what is called the Employment Authorization Card (EAD). So, you continue to be on H-1b status.
Then your employer fires you....
There are two paths here.....Technically, with a EAD card you can get employment anywhere
with what is called US AC21 Portability.However, AC21 EAD portability comes with the need
that a person with EAD should have another job with the exact same profile and same salary.
In this market who is going to give you a job with this exact profile as your old job. The only
way for a person to stay on 'legally' is to file a backup H-1b.
Thus a person in the 'last stages' of his green card also actually ends up joining a fresh h-1b
software professional.
Now, what will the USCIS do? They will ensure that they find some issue with the RFE response
provided by the 'body shopping company' and issue a denial of H-1b extension.
The body shopping companies are trying to be the Raoul Wallenbergs (helping with visa when a
person is in distress - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg). However, the USCIS will
ensure that literally hundred thousand Indian and Chinese professionals are kicked out of the
US. The same professionals who came to US to contribute to its success will now be kicked
out of US against their wish. The companies who are willing to help them will also be harassed
in the bargain, some of those companies will be investigated for non-payment of wages, some
of them will be subjected to USCIS audits for trying to help these helpless people whose lives
are being uprooted.....I am not in any way saying that lives of US citizens is not being uprooted.
These are very tough times and there is no reason to pick on the helpless, unrepresented people.
This is as un-american as it gets. US is famous for its chivalry. Over 5000 lives have been sacrificed
in Iraq to foster democracy and fairness in that part of the world. This is an un-American as it gets.
This is a planned lynching and killing of the 'spirit' of the foreign worker who came to US dreaming
of making it the American dream and participating/contributing to its success.
What should the USCIS do?
Given the tough times...They should allow people to stay on in the US as long as another
employer is willing to keep them in status. They should not question the H-1b applications as
everyone knows that USCIS can find issues with every single H-1b extension filed right now
with their respective offices. As someone said - Rejecting a H1b now is like issuing speeding
tickets at INDY 500. Even the largest companies such as Microsoft and IBM can have their
H-1b applications rejected by the USCIS with the silliest of excuse.
What is in it for the USCIS not to do this ethnic cleansing?
Long term vision for America not just right now. This year the US Embassies in India issued over
98,000 visas to students from India. These are students who are paying their way thru education
in the US (a country with the most expensive but best education). If it turns out that US specifically
targets Indians for 'special h-1b rejection treatment' literally half of them will never aspire to come
to the US within the next 2 or 3 years.
Right now the economy is bad, but it will improve: It is a 'perfect storm' right now which is causing
this downturn. The economy will surely improve in the next few quarters. There will then be new
sectors of the economy that will boom that will need professionals. There will be enough work by then
for these H-1b professionals as well as US residents.
Confident and free people contribute positively:
If the word spreads that even in bad times this society did not turn on them then the US people
will be appreciated. But, if the message is, when you are down they will kick you where it
hurts, then this society will not succeed. Just imagine, there are at least 250,000 (maybe more) people of Indian
and Asian origin who would end up buying a house if they knew for sure that they could continue
to live without the fear of being 'ethnically cleansed'. Most Indians and Asians save money and do
not splurge. Just this measure of confidence will ensure that they will spend money in the US
economy. Just their contributions will ensure that there is a bump in the housing sector.
Finally, As they say - "Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it". The US
is perpetrating a betrayal of people who could contribute to its success in the long run. But, what they are
getting is a form of 'systematic and legally driven ethnic cleansing' - they are being identified and
driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....
God Bless America....God Save America from 'some' of its own people.
Thanks.
Dude;
This is called natural correction. Read other posts and you would realize that for last 10 yrs majority of these so called IT programmers didn't even go to proper engineering college. More than half of them weren't even qualified to do the jobs. And than most of them came here and sat on bench, even though their actual jobs were still being searched or finalized. This system was mis-used and abused. Now it's time to pay for it!
So thank God this is happening and hope USCIS does good job this time.
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gjoe
12-10 11:11 PM
even if we could do population control, another thing we would need is a time machine to go back and implement the control with retroactive effect. is there anyone who has been working on a time machine? How is it coming? :D:D:D:D
USA is trying to build a time machine to go back 10-15 yrs and so they can fix the economy. Let us desi and our chinese brothers wait until the time machine is ready. We can then copy it and produce it in china and setup techical support center in India for these time machines. While doing so we will still wait in this GC queue while expecting our people back in our place to use the time machine because if we get on it we will be back in the place were we came from :D
Instead you can just buy a ticket and board a plane to our place. And you can still monitor the visa bulletin every month and also do prediction in this forum :cool:
USA is trying to build a time machine to go back 10-15 yrs and so they can fix the economy. Let us desi and our chinese brothers wait until the time machine is ready. We can then copy it and produce it in china and setup techical support center in India for these time machines. While doing so we will still wait in this GC queue while expecting our people back in our place to use the time machine because if we get on it we will be back in the place were we came from :D
Instead you can just buy a ticket and board a plane to our place. And you can still monitor the visa bulletin every month and also do prediction in this forum :cool:
abcdefgh
01-16 12:00 PM
pls update your profile so that we can confirm.
I just updated the profile. Could you please confirm?
Sorry about making a commitment for only @ 20.00.
Thanks again for all the effort done by IV Core.
I just updated the profile. Could you please confirm?
Sorry about making a commitment for only @ 20.00.
Thanks again for all the effort done by IV Core.
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ashwaghoshk
03-21 12:03 PM
Send me I'm. My prev post was deleted by mod becos they won't allow other websites to be published here
I checked on the site you mentioned. I can see so many approvals for the dates after mar-01. There are approvals on mar-01, mar-07, mar-09, mar-11, mar-12, mar-14, mar-15, mar-16 etc etc for the Atlanta center. I dont know what made you think that the process was slowed sin Mar-01.
I checked on the site you mentioned. I can see so many approvals for the dates after mar-01. There are approvals on mar-01, mar-07, mar-09, mar-11, mar-12, mar-14, mar-15, mar-16 etc etc for the Atlanta center. I dont know what made you think that the process was slowed sin Mar-01.
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retrohatao
02-14 10:23 AM
eb3_nepa,
FBI/Name check clearance is not a sub-issue. I have posted the link where you find tons of people waiting to get 485 cleared. See the linkif you need to understand the issue
http://immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=174845
It is not a sub issue and it is part of the green card process. I lament ( for lack of an apt word) your compariosn of name check to spouses not able to work.
You will realize how big a problem when you reach there.
Logiclife,
This forum has started recently and did not address "name check" as an issue. Its one of the burning issues for many of us ( most likely will impact all those who just want to clear the hurdle of labour clearnace). Believe, I was stuck in labor for 2 years ( due to Bush adminstration's decision to leagalize illegals) and I really thought that labor was the only hurdle. Atleast you could contact USCIS to track your progress. Now I am stuck in security clearance AKA name check. Now I am in totallly in darkness and nowhere to check what is happenning. FBI used to repond to e-mails( 6 months wait period)/phone messages two years ago.Now they have totally stopped it.
There are many like me and it is not just individual cases. Even at the bottom of my heart I feel those who are in labor stage whom you are representing should not have to face it. But the be realistic and I would see 80% of those in current labor would get stuck at this name check process unless some measure are taken by us.
Good luck if you guys think it is a "sub issue"
FBI/Name check clearance is not a sub-issue. I have posted the link where you find tons of people waiting to get 485 cleared. See the linkif you need to understand the issue
http://immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=174845
It is not a sub issue and it is part of the green card process. I lament ( for lack of an apt word) your compariosn of name check to spouses not able to work.
You will realize how big a problem when you reach there.
Logiclife,
This forum has started recently and did not address "name check" as an issue. Its one of the burning issues for many of us ( most likely will impact all those who just want to clear the hurdle of labour clearnace). Believe, I was stuck in labor for 2 years ( due to Bush adminstration's decision to leagalize illegals) and I really thought that labor was the only hurdle. Atleast you could contact USCIS to track your progress. Now I am stuck in security clearance AKA name check. Now I am in totallly in darkness and nowhere to check what is happenning. FBI used to repond to e-mails( 6 months wait period)/phone messages two years ago.Now they have totally stopped it.
There are many like me and it is not just individual cases. Even at the bottom of my heart I feel those who are in labor stage whom you are representing should not have to face it. But the be realistic and I would see 80% of those in current labor would get stuck at this name check process unless some measure are taken by us.
Good luck if you guys think it is a "sub issue"
Abhinaym
07-03 12:01 PM
I admit, it seems discriminatory to say you can't get your GC now because you're from this country or that country but these "high volume" countries have created the current back log through their sheer numbers and sometimes multiple applications, not the system. The system is fair to ALL and for some group to say that it isn't fair because all of that group isn't getting what they want is unjust to the rest of us. I knew I would be pounced upon when I submitted my original post and it only proves my point of personal agendas; sometimes I wonder what the "I" in "IV" really stands for? Don't be so arrogant as to believe that your higher education should give you more rights than others - that doesn't fly with me! I am frustrated with this forum because of this arrogance and I may not visit too much longer!
I do have one question for all of you who are in favor of eliminating the per country limit; do you support an eventual road to citizenship for the large group of people who dominate the "other side" of immigration? If you don't, some may think you hipocritical to want the rules changed for yourselves!
Ridiculous, nobody ever mentioned education here. Did any one here mention higher education at all?
You want to get ahead of me in the line just because where I was born even if we're equally qualified, and you're calling me arrogant???
Yes, our countries are 'high volume', how does it matter? Who are you blaming for what? Now what, you want to be commended and applauded for your countries' low population? :D LOL!
Why is it so unjust to wait your turn?
BS! IV has done so much for all immigrants and not just Indians. You should get your facts straight here. Besides this is a thread created for this purpose, there are plenty of threads which help you, if you ignore all of those and make your opinions on this you're being obnoxious. Also, the number of people in support of this petition is a tiny proportion of IV'ers. So stop stereotyping man, it is showing.
You say that we applicants are to blame for our countries' populations? I.e. we're responsible for circumstances that happened before our birth? Could you get any more ridiculous please?
I hope you begin to understand who is sounding arrogant here.
I do have one question for all of you who are in favor of eliminating the per country limit; do you support an eventual road to citizenship for the large group of people who dominate the "other side" of immigration? If you don't, some may think you hipocritical to want the rules changed for yourselves!
Ridiculous, nobody ever mentioned education here. Did any one here mention higher education at all?
You want to get ahead of me in the line just because where I was born even if we're equally qualified, and you're calling me arrogant???
Yes, our countries are 'high volume', how does it matter? Who are you blaming for what? Now what, you want to be commended and applauded for your countries' low population? :D LOL!
Why is it so unjust to wait your turn?
BS! IV has done so much for all immigrants and not just Indians. You should get your facts straight here. Besides this is a thread created for this purpose, there are plenty of threads which help you, if you ignore all of those and make your opinions on this you're being obnoxious. Also, the number of people in support of this petition is a tiny proportion of IV'ers. So stop stereotyping man, it is showing.
You say that we applicants are to blame for our countries' populations? I.e. we're responsible for circumstances that happened before our birth? Could you get any more ridiculous please?
I hope you begin to understand who is sounding arrogant here.
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virtual55
07-03 09:11 AM
with out a reliable website, we can't communicate and do all the important things(productive) you are talking. maintaining a reliable website doesn't need much funds.
Anti immigrants will not know our plans if we may this a paid website.
Anti immigrants will not know our plans if we may this a paid website.
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geniousatwork
06-11 08:50 AM
done....me and my wife did it
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Indirant
02-01 08:15 PM
Varsha,
I will be dialing in.
Thanks
Sekar
I will be dialing in.
Thanks
Sekar
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GCanyMinute
08-02 02:42 PM
Hey BumbleBee ! Thanks a lot!!
Now I clearly understand even though it is not good news :( since people from the backlogs centers are getting their LC approved with a PD prior than mine !!!
Anyways I can't complain right? i still can renew my EAD and travel documents so I guess my turn will come soon...hopefully!! :D
Thanks for helping me.
Now I clearly understand even though it is not good news :( since people from the backlogs centers are getting their LC approved with a PD prior than mine !!!
Anyways I can't complain right? i still can renew my EAD and travel documents so I guess my turn will come soon...hopefully!! :D
Thanks for helping me.
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permfiling
11-09 03:31 PM
Nope, not yet.
Congratulations,!! Is your card really green or pollution has some effect on it? ;)
How long did it take to get CPO email and card since 485 approval notice?
Thanks
Congratulations,!! Is your card really green or pollution has some effect on it? ;)
How long did it take to get CPO email and card since 485 approval notice?
Thanks
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nixstor
04-04 10:34 AM
The truth is they already know that there are professors and research scientists who are in limbo. Its just unfortunate that every one has to ride the same boat. We need to call lawmakers to tell them how bad the situation is, contribute so that IV can reach the lawmakers through lobbying. If every one does the above two things, we will reach our goal faster.
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Pineapple
11-12 09:19 AM
Got my receipt letter from USCIS. The FOIA request has been put on the complex track.
By the way, since this is an IV action initiative, I think this thread should be a link on IV's main page as a headline instead of being buried in the forums..
By the way, since this is an IV action initiative, I think this thread should be a link on IV's main page as a headline instead of being buried in the forums..
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reddymjm
10-15 01:31 PM
do that and as a backlash, the PDs will go back to 1800! after that even if u send the whole garden they won't be current again:D
I hate flower campaigns. If we do one more for sure it will go to 1900 if not 1800.
I hate flower campaigns. If we do one more for sure it will go to 1900 if not 1800.
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ashishgour
09-10 01:19 PM
nebody seeing the proceedings...or jus the eagle???
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Dhundhun
07-12 11:06 AM
http://www.immigration-law.com/
Two-Year EAD Extension Application: If your EAD will expire within the next four months (120 days), you should file the EAD application within this month since the first condition for the two-year EAD is unavailability of visa number for the applicant.
To be precise:
USCIS will continue to issue the EAD in one-year increments when the Department of State Visa Bulletin shows an employment-based preference category is current as a whole or the applicant’s priority date is current.
Reference: http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/2yrEAD_FAQ_061208.pdf
The Processing Dates are in Julys. Several applications are Augusts. Movement of Processings Dates are so slow that USCIS must have taken Processing Dates into account alongwith Priority Dates. There was a ball park figure from USCIS last year that it will take 18 month to process files.
Today's Processing Dates are:
TSC EB I485 Processing Date July 17, 2007
NSC EB I485 Processing Date July 28, 2007
Two-Year EAD Extension Application: If your EAD will expire within the next four months (120 days), you should file the EAD application within this month since the first condition for the two-year EAD is unavailability of visa number for the applicant.
To be precise:
USCIS will continue to issue the EAD in one-year increments when the Department of State Visa Bulletin shows an employment-based preference category is current as a whole or the applicant’s priority date is current.
Reference: http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/2yrEAD_FAQ_061208.pdf
The Processing Dates are in Julys. Several applications are Augusts. Movement of Processings Dates are so slow that USCIS must have taken Processing Dates into account alongwith Priority Dates. There was a ball park figure from USCIS last year that it will take 18 month to process files.
Today's Processing Dates are:
TSC EB I485 Processing Date July 17, 2007
NSC EB I485 Processing Date July 28, 2007
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vandanaverdia
09-10 03:16 PM
You have to think twice before you travel out of the country. You cannot travel out of the country freely because you are stuck at some or the other stage of the green card process.
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Refugee_New
07-30 11:19 AM
LOL.
The issue of GOD and religion has been discussed ad nauseum by many great thinkers and philosophers (Spinoza, Voltaire, Hume, Russel etc.). Most of us do not read their opinions and try to broaden our knowledge. We never get beyond what our parents taught us about GOD and religion. What is worse still is that the allegorical descriptions in religious texts are now treated as facts and we often end up arguing over these as well.
Having said that, there is nothing wrong in believing in GOD. There is also nothing wrong if someone is not convinced about the existence of GOD. There are valid philosophical arguments for both cases. Lack of mutual respect and failing to see others point of view is what is causing this rift.
You are true. Every religion preaches their followers to give atmost respect to people of other faith. Being a weak humanbeing we always tend to forget these simple rules.
The issue of GOD and religion has been discussed ad nauseum by many great thinkers and philosophers (Spinoza, Voltaire, Hume, Russel etc.). Most of us do not read their opinions and try to broaden our knowledge. We never get beyond what our parents taught us about GOD and religion. What is worse still is that the allegorical descriptions in religious texts are now treated as facts and we often end up arguing over these as well.
Having said that, there is nothing wrong in believing in GOD. There is also nothing wrong if someone is not convinced about the existence of GOD. There are valid philosophical arguments for both cases. Lack of mutual respect and failing to see others point of view is what is causing this rift.
You are true. Every religion preaches their followers to give atmost respect to people of other faith. Being a weak humanbeing we always tend to forget these simple rules.
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gc_on_demand
03-10 04:46 PM
>> Once they (USCIS) reached last quarter then they(DOS) will make EB2-I/C current and distribute those spill-over visas across EB.
Thanks MDix.
You have no idea. Have a good day, sir!
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This is another anti immigrant. Please ignore him
Thanks MDix.
You have no idea. Have a good day, sir!
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This is another anti immigrant. Please ignore him
nojoke
10-20 01:36 AM
nojoke dont get emotional. we have no bone to pick with either obama or mcccain. We are talking about who is better for eb immigrants, so either you talk about what obama can offer or has offered to eb immigrants, unfortunately you cannot because obama is anti eb immigrants, so you are spewing the democratic talking points here and changing the topic. This is not a political site please dont bring politics here and concentrate on eb policies of the candidates.
Do you all ever wonder why 1996 to 2000 was great and the economy never went to quite the 2000 levels? It is because of useless wars and getting the job shipped to other countries. That is the republican agenda. If you think you will have a better chance of green card under Republican rule, you are sadly mistaken. The economy will continue to go down, while there will be another Iran war to turn the attention from problems with economy. We need someone who can think clear and be steady. It doesn't matter if the republicans have pro immigration stance or not. The economy is going to dictate if companies are going to keep us employed here. You need to see the bigger picture.
Moreover it is during the democratic president that immigration got relaxed. At one point the H1 quota was raised to 200 thousand. It takes 8 or more years to get green card under republican rule. It wasn't the case during clinton years. Before you say that it is the house/senate that decides immigration policies, republican had control from 2000 to 2006. What has been done that has our chances improved?
If the topic posted is political, then the discussion is bound to get political.
Do you all ever wonder why 1996 to 2000 was great and the economy never went to quite the 2000 levels? It is because of useless wars and getting the job shipped to other countries. That is the republican agenda. If you think you will have a better chance of green card under Republican rule, you are sadly mistaken. The economy will continue to go down, while there will be another Iran war to turn the attention from problems with economy. We need someone who can think clear and be steady. It doesn't matter if the republicans have pro immigration stance or not. The economy is going to dictate if companies are going to keep us employed here. You need to see the bigger picture.
Moreover it is during the democratic president that immigration got relaxed. At one point the H1 quota was raised to 200 thousand. It takes 8 or more years to get green card under republican rule. It wasn't the case during clinton years. Before you say that it is the house/senate that decides immigration policies, republican had control from 2000 to 2006. What has been done that has our chances improved?
If the topic posted is political, then the discussion is bound to get political.
Aah_GC
06-06 12:27 PM
After long wait of 4.7 years ( i know it may not sound too long as some of the others), I finally got the card production ordered email yesterday. I was mostly a silent reader on IV but have contributed to IV few times since I started visiting since last year. I wish good luck for everybody waiting out there.
Congratulations and good luck!
Congratulations and good luck!
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