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  • justAnotherFile
    07-13 02:03 AM
    i agree Murthy should have done this on the 3rd or on the 5th or even on the 9th, if she was sincere about it.

    Why did she wait for this evening, she surely got wind that something is gonna happen and is trying to piggyback on that.





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  • Jaime
    09-14 01:06 PM
    We mean EVERYONE!!! DC is not far!!! Let's all go!!!

    What will it take to change your mind????

    If you are within 4-5 hour drive of Washington you shouldn't even be debating whether to go or not. The decision is: YES!!!!!





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  • GC_1000Watt
    03-12 02:39 PM
    Here we are again "Mentally" bruised and beaten by yet another VB.
    USCIS talk about some unknown cases in district offices..tomorrow they will say they have more pending unknown cases at some local attorney general office. And then we have no spillover happening, just asking for a disastorus wastage of visa in the last quarter. That's all ridiculous and making a mockery out of us.

    Wish I had the power and money to pull USCIS in court and ask them to actually clear the scene to all of us.
    Can "IV" in some way provide us with the "Power" to question USCIS and publish the answer in public? If the answer is Yes, then I am sure many people can contribute for the cause.





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  • rajuram
    01-25 08:18 PM
    understood.

    This is as per my experience and talking to people who know about letter writing.
    Are you sending these emails with your name, address etc from a genuine email ID? Try sending it from your office ID if you are serious.
    Otherwise all your emails are getting deleted by the spam fileter and you are wasting your energy, time.

    I came to this site while searching on Google to read about investments and buying houses kind of topic and I think those are good threads. They help us increase our knowlege and help in real life in the life of an immigrant waiting for greencard. Most people after getting EAD do not eally care about Greencard like you but care about these issues more. Green card will come anyways for them, sooner or later. You cannot keep discussing about Immigration all the time. Such threads add interest to the site. Who is interested in reading threads like Stamping in Tijuana, H1B denied, Got no FP notice Please help Urgent, etc



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  • nixstor
    04-23 04:57 PM
    Read my message - I am *NOT* an IV member and nor did I represent myself as one - like many people I just subscribed to public portal - if you want to limit it to IV members, you must consider doing that .

    As far as talking in the meeting was considered, it was not an IV meeting and open to the public and I have all the right to say what I want to - whether it is inline with what you want to hear or not is not my problem.

    Tone yourself down before you point fingers elsewhere. GC is not your birth right.

    Bud,

    Its quite contradictory that you say that you are not an IV member and dont intend to be one, but you would like to particiapte freely and throw your opinion and get info about events with out aligning to the common goal of the organization. Now dont tell me that you got info about the event some where else. If every one of us try to get our own issue or a group of 15-20 people's issue solved we wont get any thing. This is common sense. What you said about making it paid site/open for certain members sounds bland to me. I am appalled that your thought process is not at all in sync with your accomplishments. If you think you can sell your group story and bring GC to the massess dream on. IV sure has lot of compelling stories that are sold already, but politics is bigger than you,me and our stories. If you are working only for people who are sought after by the stanford's and harvard's, move on.

    It's so unfortunate that we fight on issues like this. On your next conf call with Rajiv, bring up the same Q and seek his advice. Let us know what he thinks about your sales pitch and getting GC's only for the most sought. I am not mocking you or slinging mud at you. Its blatant that you are not understanding the political scenario. GC is not any one's birth right but that is what actuallly holding you up.





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  • rennieallen
    03-05 07:41 PM
    My $0.02:

    Add this option to the poll as well to get a realistic picture:

    I will not buy a house tomorrow (even if I was promised a GC this evening) because we are in a recession and/or the real estate market is spiralling downwards.


    Now is *exactly* the right time to buy a house (at least in California). The prices are not spiraling down (they've already hit bottom). The interest rates are low and prices are low.



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  • paskal
    01-26 02:46 AM
    dear friend,

    we would all like something to happen. but not everything is in our hands. nor do these things happen easily or quickly. the issues involved are now deeply emotional and political. much of what goes on is in the background and not for public consumption. there is a certain expectancy over immigration reform this year, we cannot afford to waste the sliver of opportunity that may present.
    let me put two things to you simply:

    1. if you keep waiting for "good news" to make your contribution, and if enough people think like you, well maybe it will never come. you see, the whole thing about iv is that we are trying to make our own destiny. without effort there will be no fruits. many people are making significant efforts, may be you have missed that on your visits to the forum. without the help of many more though, we are sunk.

    2. your contribution is intended to create "good news", it is not some reward you hand out after success begins. i realize that you are feeling low and frustrated. please join this effort in earnest- the best way to feel positive is to know you are making your utmost effort. not just money, bring in members and join a state chapter, meet lawmakers and help with campaigns on the forum. If everyone did these things, we would be unstoppable.

    please think about it. you have been waiting for months to see results from others hard work. maybe it's time to jump right in.
    thanks for reading...





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  • 485Mbe4001
    07-11 03:35 PM
    thanks. now wonder EB3 -I is screwed. I just need to apply in EB2.

    Previously, the policy was that all worldwide numbers would fall down into worldwide third and then from there, fall across to the countries impacted by retrogression (i.e. India, China). The policy was recently clarified and today the unused numbers are allocated within the same preference classification.



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  • ronhira
    03-12 12:37 PM
    I made it very clear even in past. I am more rational kinda guy. I want to know where my money is spent at high level - no details. I know its against IV policy. So I admire what IV is doing, I appreciate donor only forum but not contributing yet. May be I am wrong being too hard to be convinced. I will think over.

    n.b.: Yes, I do follow all action items including calling and faxing. I think everybody does this so needless to mention.

    u would think..... that everyone follow action items...... then y would we be in this mess if everyone is doing what they should......

    i think greyhair, you, kumarc123 are all part of the problem...... let me re-phrase that.... u r all a disease plaguing this eb community...... everyone has their own little petty reason for not participating...... so just eat taco with u'r $25, no need to think over.... keep volunteering me for doing things for u.... i don't care much for this bickering back & forth.... so leave me alone & let me enjoy my friday....





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  • vin
    06-12 05:06 PM
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19127991/site/newsweek/

    38/50 dems voted for bill
    Only 7/38 rep voted for bill.

    There is a good chance that Bush will get 15 more out of 38 to favor the bill.



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  • LegalIndianInUSA
    08-02 11:43 PM
    Although they promise a lot of things on paper, we generally skip reading the fine print. Fine print generally would include this clause (language will be a bit different)...
    "Although these are our policies, these might change at any time, with or without written notice".
    End of story to all 'You promised me gold in your agreement' arguments.


    There was no fine print on the appointment letter. There wasn't even fuzzy wording (like "we may" or "in most circumstances" etc).
    Although I'm clearly educated about how the system works now, back then, at age 24, I wasn't. I was foolish enough to trust and believe that they would keep their word; they are after all, big multinational companies.
    I don't want other young Indian/foreign immigrants to fall into the same predicament.
    The sooner they realize that Human Resources is the most inhuman department in a company, the better.


    Practically speaking, if you think from a company's perspective also, I don't blame them. Would you (Mr OP sir) be willing to invest in something that you are not sure that you will get profit from it? Like, you give me 100$, I may give it back+10%interest or may not give it back. If I want to give it back, I may give it back in 2yrs or even 30yrs, 100 yrs its upto me, depending on some citing of random comet I choose.
    Same thing in company's point of view, if they invest in endless lawyer fees, filing fees, humongous paperwork and easily these days GC process take 5-35 years and during/after this time, What is the guarantee that you will still stick with the company - after all this investment of time & money? Companies need visible & predictable ROIs.


    In large companies, the Legal department doesnt exist solely for GCs and Immigration related matters. The cost of immigration is barely a drop in the overall cost of maintaining such a department, and hence your logic is wrong.


    It is an unfortunate truth we all need to get accustomed to live with.

    No, we dont need to get accustomed to being lied to, or being treated as skilled slaves.
    If you side with the law and say that the companies are not obligated to process GCs, then they should not be offering the same. Also, the law as it currently stands, is unjust and I'd much sooner see the law be changed to something like "if you've worked here for 6 years, paid taxes etc, then you can apply for a GC yourself based on just that"


    I guess it is in our Indian blood to expect freebies/extra perks from government, from employers (being socialist, a bit communist country and what not), and we forget it is the FREE MARKET that rules here.

    lol. Firstly, there is no such thing as a "free market". Wake up already.
    Secondly, the US is more socialist than India is.
    Thirdly, A GC is not a freebie/extra perk. A GC is a good-faith agreement between the company, the future employee and the governing body(USCIS), and companies should understand the ethical meaning of "good faith".


    If your skills are in high demand, they will make you the king. If supply is high for your skills, they will go for someone cheaper..
    Yea sure, I'd like to see all the high skilled kings that have been made by companies.
    It is a fallacy that skill, intellect or IQ has meaning/importance in the US.
    At the end of the day, you are just another desk jockey.





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  • PERM12
    08-11 11:42 AM
    All,
    count me in.... but we should also include not just this but also Flexibility of all and any one who is on H1 and H4. immeterial of they in EB2 or EB3. All one is required is Flexibility ...

    Flexibility to leave the current job and go join a college without worrying about status
    Flexibility to take a vacation for a month to visit places and friends without worrying about nex project
    Flexibility to change employers and get a better position and offer
    Flexibility to work in position you deserve..rather than rot in the same job profile b'cos your GC process is pending
    Flexibility to invent and develop ideas and work on itself rathar than work for some company which undermines, underpays those ideas and inventions

    most of us might reply it only happens when you are Green'd but that is not what i am expecting...this is for all those who are going through it and who will be going through it in future.

    Lets also work for drastic change in the employment based work permits.



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  • dressking
    09-28 03:39 PM
    Sorry about the generalization. I was refering to Senthil1 kind of folks, not folks like you. Thanks for all the support. My friend got a green card as recently as a month back, he struggled for a long time before he got one, I asked him if he wants to come for the rally and he told me "MRRRRRRRR I GOT MY GREEN CARD, YOU ARE ASKING THE WRONG PERSON FOR THE RALLY" and the same person told me "SOMETHING MUST HAPPEN TO THESE ROTTEN CONSULTING COMPANIES, THEY ARE RUINING THE SYSTEM" he got his GC from a small consulting company and after getting his GC he says these companies must not exist - he wants to shut thee door behind him

    Those Asian Americans who are against new Asian immigrants, which include some of my relatives, sadly to tell you, are just helping White Americans in this fight. It is their wish and their passion. But if White Americans don't want it, they will have no chance of getting their voices heard. Not all White Americans are against immigration. But there is a big percentage of White Americans who are either fiercely against it or do not want it. I can hardly find any White American who says he or she wants more immigrants. And a small percentage of White Americans are fiercely against immigration. They would curse at anyone who they think is a new immigrant at any opportunity they have.





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  • snathan
    03-07 01:00 PM
    i need to accomodate people coming from NJ, CA, FL.
    if anyone wants to offer place at their home please let me know.

    You forgot people from TX....? I need accommodation.

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  • sweet_jungle
    02-20 12:59 AM
    How come these people do not get caught during H-1 approval process or during visa stamping at consulate or maybe later during GC process?

    [QUOTE=chanduv23]Thats a new trend. They go to colleges and meet a group of Indian students who are about to graduate and take them out of drinks and dinner and give a presentation about their company. Then when these students come into OPT status, they are all given food + guest house accomodation. Then they are put under intense training for 2 to 3 months and made to do some mockup projects. Then their resumes are massaged with 4 to 5 years of experience ie experience from date they graduated in the under graduation and their MS education is stripped off on their resumes.





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  • PD_Dec2002
    03-03 04:44 PM
    My $0.02:

    Add this option to the poll as well to get a realistic picture:

    I will not buy a house tomorrow (even if I was promised a GC this evening) because we are in a recession and/or the real estate market is spiralling downwards.The 1 MM people in the line for EB green card (quoted from singhsa3's 02:48 pm post #6 http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=227738&postcount=6) as you say are highly skilled. And even though they have the money are not financially stupid (at least a significant chunk) to buy a house just for the lure of a green card. This "smart" significant chunk will buy a house when among other reasons, they believe market conditions are right and are comfortable with their decision. A house might be your single-most biggest investment/asset/liability that you will ever have and even a "gold" card (forget green card) will not make anyone place such bets.

    We bought our house way back in 2002. We still don't have our green cards, but we bought it after evaluating the risks and rewards.

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  • sanju
    02-03 05:28 PM
    Alright guys you seem to have more Political understanding than I have, that was one reason that I was talking 20 people, I have 6 people now, when we'll talk these things will come, as these 5 people may have your kind of Political knowledge

    Look mirage, I want to help in anyway I can, and I know your intensions are good, but good intensions and mere frustartion arenot enough to produce the desired results. The effort has to timed well. Bush had good intensions, atleast thats what he said, but the outcome was not how everyone desired. I am telling you, conserve your energy for the right time, don't lose steam and willingness to do something about the issue, but do not waste your energy. Use it wisely. Although, I must say that I have witnessed a lot of gurus in these forums. Sometimes I see them logged in, but they do not always post. If I were you, I would do my hiomework, get those folks on board, chose the right time, and put in the best effort.

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  • chanduv23
    11-14 11:41 AM
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  • vin13
    11-11 04:12 PM
    Pappu has already informed that with the limited resources they are not currently considering to actively persue regarding Quarterly Spillover.

    So for now, we need to do what we can by ourselves.





    thomachan72
    04-11 10:06 AM
    technical issue....dont know why but cant go to page 5.. this post is just to take me to the 5th page....pls ignore





    mrdelhiite
    07-23 03:47 PM
    485 is not for employer, its for employee. AOS.
    If you don't submit, they'll ask you as RFE.
    Please do not scare anybody with half knowledge.
    All you can say politely is there might be a chance instead of rejected.
    Have some dignity.

    ""Have some dignity."" ??? just read the replies below your reply.



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