MerciesOfInjustices
02-20 07:54 PM
There is a post at ImmigrationPortal by a guy claiming that IV's ability to hire lobbyists is bogus! I would like this guy's questions anwered here as well as at his post on the "EB Retrogression - HOT News" thread http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=204685 if possible!
These are the posts by the user hadron:
For anyone intending to 'vote with their wallet', please keep the following in mind:
- Only US citizens are allowed to contribute to political campaigns (it is even illegal to give money to a citizen friend and have him contribute as a straw-man)
- there are regulations regarding political action committees (PAC) controlled by 'agents of a foreign power'
While I appreciate the enthusiasm of the folks setting up IV.com (and I have no reason to doubt the sincerity and honesty of their efforts), I don't see a whole lot on the groups website dealing with the legal aspects noted above.
And then when I posted:
A lot of foreign governments and entities legally employ lobbyists in Washington. They are merely getting your voice heard by the people's representatives!
I am not a US Civics expert, but neither can be everybody else here!
hadron, just because somebody is Board-certified in one field of Medicine does not make them experts in everything else!
Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way! Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
This was what he posted:
Correct, and they are very careful to be registered with the secretary of state as a PAC or public interest lobbying organization. As you point out I am certainly not an expert on the law in this area, but before you start collecting a lot of money, make sure you have competent advice from someone who is (I looked into registering an immigration related PAC a year ago, after realizing the red-tape and political minefields involved I decided not to do so).
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Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way!
I actually don't know how to do that.
The reality is, in washington there are two things that open the door of a lawmakers office to a lobbyist:
- a check from the PAC aligned with his cause
- evidence that he represents measurable share of voting citizens in the home district of the representative or senator
And do you see the problem here?
You guys can't legally contribute to political campaigns and you don't represent voting citizens. So, having a lobbyist might be a first step, but it doesn't mean that your cause will be heard.
Our main ally in the immigration arena is the US chamber of commerce. They are spending considerable money on advocating for employment based immigration reform (their main thrust however is getting access to unskilled workers, either through a guest worker program or through legalization. in a secondary way they are interested in higher H1b quotas to get access to cheap professionals, fixing retrogression is not very high on their agenda). Have you talked to other organizations classically on our side yet ?
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Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
Please, save me the melodramatics.
Immigration bills get introduced by the dozen every year, most of them don't even make it into committee (but every time one gets introduced, people here on this board get all excited that finally 'relief is here'.) Even if a coalition of influential senators picks up the issue, there is no guarantee that it will go anywhere.
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I am not angry at anyone, and I don't think that any of my posts can be misconstrued to convey that impression.
I think it is a good idea to start (another) lobbying organization for immigrant rights as the existing ones have a interests very different from us. All the latino groups are only interested in family immigration and legalization of illegals, employment based immigration is only a little blip on their radar screen. Industry on the other hand has their own agenda, again not one coinciding with our issues.
I just think that some of the people involved in IV.com are taking step2 before they have taken step1. They have a nice website (no big suprise with a project run by IT professionals) and are already soliciting contributions, but some aspects of it make me wonder about the level of professionalism involved.
So as apparently some of the founders of this organization are present on this board, I would like the following questions answered:
- what is the legal form of your non-profit organization ?
- is this entity registered in any state, if yes in which ?
- who is registered as the owner of the organizations bank account ?
- what is the structure of the organization ? Do you have dues paying members, is there a board of directors, trustees ??
- who are the officers of the organization ?
Collecting contributions and spending them on political influence activities without making sure that all legal requirements are fulfilled is a dangerous endeavour. I hope you have everything set up the right way so you don't run afoul of the law (fixing retrogression is not going to do you any good if you are fighting a federal wire-fraud indictment at the time of your adjustment interview).
Also, if you want to collect significant contributions, you have to instill some trust into the donors that their money will be used for the intended cause and can't be siphoned off by a member of the organization.
So, before anyone decides to attack me personally, please come back with answers to these questions (or better, put them on the website for any potential contributor to see).
There will always be naysayers for everything! But I would like to clarify if IV can legally get representation from QGA, provided we do get the money collected? That will be the critical difference between our previous efforts and IV!!!
Admin / moderators please answer!
These are the posts by the user hadron:
For anyone intending to 'vote with their wallet', please keep the following in mind:
- Only US citizens are allowed to contribute to political campaigns (it is even illegal to give money to a citizen friend and have him contribute as a straw-man)
- there are regulations regarding political action committees (PAC) controlled by 'agents of a foreign power'
While I appreciate the enthusiasm of the folks setting up IV.com (and I have no reason to doubt the sincerity and honesty of their efforts), I don't see a whole lot on the groups website dealing with the legal aspects noted above.
And then when I posted:
A lot of foreign governments and entities legally employ lobbyists in Washington. They are merely getting your voice heard by the people's representatives!
I am not a US Civics expert, but neither can be everybody else here!
hadron, just because somebody is Board-certified in one field of Medicine does not make them experts in everything else!
Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way! Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
This was what he posted:
Correct, and they are very careful to be registered with the secretary of state as a PAC or public interest lobbying organization. As you point out I am certainly not an expert on the law in this area, but before you start collecting a lot of money, make sure you have competent advice from someone who is (I looked into registering an immigration related PAC a year ago, after realizing the red-tape and political minefields involved I decided not to do so).
Quote:
Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way!
I actually don't know how to do that.
The reality is, in washington there are two things that open the door of a lawmakers office to a lobbyist:
- a check from the PAC aligned with his cause
- evidence that he represents measurable share of voting citizens in the home district of the representative or senator
And do you see the problem here?
You guys can't legally contribute to political campaigns and you don't represent voting citizens. So, having a lobbyist might be a first step, but it doesn't mean that your cause will be heard.
Our main ally in the immigration arena is the US chamber of commerce. They are spending considerable money on advocating for employment based immigration reform (their main thrust however is getting access to unskilled workers, either through a guest worker program or through legalization. in a secondary way they are interested in higher H1b quotas to get access to cheap professionals, fixing retrogression is not very high on their agenda). Have you talked to other organizations classically on our side yet ?
Quote:
Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
Please, save me the melodramatics.
Immigration bills get introduced by the dozen every year, most of them don't even make it into committee (but every time one gets introduced, people here on this board get all excited that finally 'relief is here'.) Even if a coalition of influential senators picks up the issue, there is no guarantee that it will go anywhere.
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This is last post:
I am not angry at anyone, and I don't think that any of my posts can be misconstrued to convey that impression.
I think it is a good idea to start (another) lobbying organization for immigrant rights as the existing ones have a interests very different from us. All the latino groups are only interested in family immigration and legalization of illegals, employment based immigration is only a little blip on their radar screen. Industry on the other hand has their own agenda, again not one coinciding with our issues.
I just think that some of the people involved in IV.com are taking step2 before they have taken step1. They have a nice website (no big suprise with a project run by IT professionals) and are already soliciting contributions, but some aspects of it make me wonder about the level of professionalism involved.
So as apparently some of the founders of this organization are present on this board, I would like the following questions answered:
- what is the legal form of your non-profit organization ?
- is this entity registered in any state, if yes in which ?
- who is registered as the owner of the organizations bank account ?
- what is the structure of the organization ? Do you have dues paying members, is there a board of directors, trustees ??
- who are the officers of the organization ?
Collecting contributions and spending them on political influence activities without making sure that all legal requirements are fulfilled is a dangerous endeavour. I hope you have everything set up the right way so you don't run afoul of the law (fixing retrogression is not going to do you any good if you are fighting a federal wire-fraud indictment at the time of your adjustment interview).
Also, if you want to collect significant contributions, you have to instill some trust into the donors that their money will be used for the intended cause and can't be siphoned off by a member of the organization.
So, before anyone decides to attack me personally, please come back with answers to these questions (or better, put them on the website for any potential contributor to see).
There will always be naysayers for everything! But I would like to clarify if IV can legally get representation from QGA, provided we do get the money collected? That will be the critical difference between our previous efforts and IV!!!
Admin / moderators please answer!
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05-29 08:37 PM
Done...
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07-14 10:15 AM
Congratulations Dinesh! Your story is an inspiration to the rest of us!
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eb3_nepa
11-30 04:00 PM
Discover does not issue a credit card if you are not a PR or citizen..even though you have good credit history..
That is not true at all. Discover was the FIRST to isssue me a Credit card as a student and to this date no problems.
That is not true at all. Discover was the FIRST to isssue me a Credit card as a student and to this date no problems.
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eilsoe
02-11 07:29 AM
I voted for ya too kit ;)
I was your first... :sure:
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prince_waiting
05-18 12:48 PM
Quotas are exactly the reason I cannot go back to India ever...I absolutely hate them....There is already classification under EB category....BTW I have a MS in EE from Auburn University....Best bet for us is lost visa recapture.....
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manand24
08-10 10:23 AM
I don't care about LS. Almost all cases I know are fraud. Sometimes 2 guys got GCs on same labor(since they were not asking Original LC). Thank god USCIS banned LS.
God Bless USCIS for banning LS.
If you had the opportunity of getting a Substitute labor and potentially get your GC sooner rather than later, wouldn't you grab it with both hands. It is the GC Freedom.
I am also thankful that DOL and USCIS have banned Labor Substitutions but please give those who have used them a break. They are also in the same boat as you and me (people with regular labor). Chasing the American Dream. No offense intended.:o
God Bless USCIS for banning LS.
If you had the opportunity of getting a Substitute labor and potentially get your GC sooner rather than later, wouldn't you grab it with both hands. It is the GC Freedom.
I am also thankful that DOL and USCIS have banned Labor Substitutions but please give those who have used them a break. They are also in the same boat as you and me (people with regular labor). Chasing the American Dream. No offense intended.:o
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ramee
07-05 01:23 PM
Any one in the same boat?
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JunRN
06-06 10:37 AM
Going back to the supplemental AC21 memo:
Imagine an IO who has a very bad mood for the day. Then he receives an AC21 letter for the case he is processing and saw that the i-140 of the person is not yet approved.
And he thought: "Oh....I would raise an RFE for this and see if the previous employer still respond to it".
Do you think this is a plausible scenario?
Imagine an IO who has a very bad mood for the day. Then he receives an AC21 letter for the case he is processing and saw that the i-140 of the person is not yet approved.
And he thought: "Oh....I would raise an RFE for this and see if the previous employer still respond to it".
Do you think this is a plausible scenario?
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johnamit
07-31 12:47 PM
Wait for PD to be current
Wait for RD
Wait for ND
Wait for EAD
Wait for AP
Wait for AC-21
Wait for FP
Wait for GC
Wait
Wait
Wait
Wait
And again wait.
Wait for RD
Wait for ND
Wait for EAD
Wait for AP
Wait for AC-21
Wait for FP
Wait for GC
Wait
Wait
Wait
Wait
And again wait.
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GCBy3000
07-28 09:00 AM
What is received date? What is delivered date? How come there are 6 days gap between those days? Even if you assume that the receiving guy took 6 days to lift his hand and receive, how come the received date is before the delivery date? So he received it even before it was delivered to him.
Boss,
He/she explained the actual thing later on at Murthy forum ....
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nisars
Member posted July 27, 2007 09:50 AM
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here are the answers...
Here are the answers...
When did you receive the receipt notice?
Yesterday from my Lawyer.
Did your checks get cleared?
I believe YES, required checks were issue from the law firm's account, No personal.
What was your receipt date on the notice?
Receipt Date is July 09th (I confirmed Online).
Thanks,
NisarS
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Boss,
He/she explained the actual thing later on at Murthy forum ....
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nisars
Member posted July 27, 2007 09:50 AM
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here are the answers...
Here are the answers...
When did you receive the receipt notice?
Yesterday from my Lawyer.
Did your checks get cleared?
I believe YES, required checks were issue from the law firm's account, No personal.
What was your receipt date on the notice?
Receipt Date is July 09th (I confirmed Online).
Thanks,
NisarS
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gc28262
03-11 06:49 PM
Per your logic if someone tries to stop/end bribing in India, you will question them saying-
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What you are saying..about consulting companies not having a "job" at hand to offer is the mis-use of the Visa. This is the loop-hole that cause small time shops to jsut bring a lot of people onsite and then start sending resume arranging interviews etc............................................... ...........
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Don't compare this to bribe. You lack judgment. That is the way consulting business work irrespective of whether it as an Indian owned company or American company.
Regarding "job at hand", as long as the company is paying wages to the employee from day1, there should not be an issue. H1B laws don't say you have to have an end client to sponsor an H1. Employer needs to pay the employee from day1. That is it. Only outsourcing companies can guarantee an end client.
Don't site examples of companies that are not following rules to make a point.
I am sure you were not air-lifted by one of the US companies from India.
If you are an IIT ian, companies may do that. Not otherwise.
If you have some issues with consulting companies, that is your personal problem. It has nothing to do with H1.
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What you are saying..about consulting companies not having a "job" at hand to offer is the mis-use of the Visa. This is the loop-hole that cause small time shops to jsut bring a lot of people onsite and then start sending resume arranging interviews etc............................................... ...........
.................................................. .............................
Don't compare this to bribe. You lack judgment. That is the way consulting business work irrespective of whether it as an Indian owned company or American company.
Regarding "job at hand", as long as the company is paying wages to the employee from day1, there should not be an issue. H1B laws don't say you have to have an end client to sponsor an H1. Employer needs to pay the employee from day1. That is it. Only outsourcing companies can guarantee an end client.
Don't site examples of companies that are not following rules to make a point.
I am sure you were not air-lifted by one of the US companies from India.
If you are an IIT ian, companies may do that. Not otherwise.
If you have some issues with consulting companies, that is your personal problem. It has nothing to do with H1.
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NO_Free_Rider
10-11 10:58 PM
My labor approved from PBEC (PD May 2003-EB3 India) on Aug 20!
Yes, and I hear only EAD, AP, spouse' FP etc in this forum now.
I missed the date by just a week:( .Not sure what to do here . People on the forum seems to be concerned about Fingerprinting and getting EAD's only .
Yes, and I hear only EAD, AP, spouse' FP etc in this forum now.
I missed the date by just a week:( .Not sure what to do here . People on the forum seems to be concerned about Fingerprinting and getting EAD's only .
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seeker
05-30 10:22 AM
guys, do not be pessimists. First, this bill is still miles away from becoming law; even if it passes the senate it is going to be bashed by the house; they may be no CIR eventually this year; that will be to our advantage.
Let's hope for the best.
Let's hope for the best.
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itsmedude
02-12 04:46 PM
Hi all,
Mine is a different situation, i was with my employer till mid of last year and did not inform him while leaving his company and joined another job (h1 transfer) he is now saying that the vendor did not pay him some money and i have to pay that amount and he is demanding that amount for my W-2.
He also said that he would take legal action if i didnot pay his losses ( i did not sign any document with him other than my h1b papers) no agreements,
I am going to call IRS after feb15, but is he going to go to court?
Please suggest me.
Thanks
Mine is a different situation, i was with my employer till mid of last year and did not inform him while leaving his company and joined another job (h1 transfer) he is now saying that the vendor did not pay him some money and i have to pay that amount and he is demanding that amount for my W-2.
He also said that he would take legal action if i didnot pay his losses ( i did not sign any document with him other than my h1b papers) no agreements,
I am going to call IRS after feb15, but is he going to go to court?
Please suggest me.
Thanks
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dante1271
08-27 09:51 PM
thank you for the effort of finding me a sponsor...:)
There are thousands of IV members in CA. Please book your tickets now. Yes, it is thousands of miles to DC and on a work day too but as I said we have one chance to voice our concerns. We are not going to get another chance like this anytime soon. It looks like we might have to fly in a few hundred people because DC appears to be sleeping.
Come on California. Submit your vacation requests now. Book your tickets. Fly on Monday night and fly back on Tuesday night if need be. There are a few people already doing this. Make your contribution. Act now.
There are thousands of IV members in CA. Please book your tickets now. Yes, it is thousands of miles to DC and on a work day too but as I said we have one chance to voice our concerns. We are not going to get another chance like this anytime soon. It looks like we might have to fly in a few hundred people because DC appears to be sleeping.
Come on California. Submit your vacation requests now. Book your tickets. Fly on Monday night and fly back on Tuesday night if need be. There are a few people already doing this. Make your contribution. Act now.
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longq
12-26 03:19 PM
Did you mean "EB2 ROW Unused visa numbers are not given to EB2 India and China... Are those number given to EB3 ROW ?"
the bold text is my addition. If that's your question, I am curious about that too.
It seems as per current DOS practice, the answer is yes. They will be issuing only 2800 EB2 visas per year to India and China. They will be issuing remaining unused visas by EB2-ROW to EB3-ROW.
the bold text is my addition. If that's your question, I am curious about that too.
It seems as per current DOS practice, the answer is yes. They will be issuing only 2800 EB2 visas per year to India and China. They will be issuing remaining unused visas by EB2-ROW to EB3-ROW.
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logiclife
02-20 08:27 PM
I recant my earlier outburst at mercies since I realize that he was acting as a messenger to the problem. Sorry for the offense mercies.
There are many people who would just run away from effort when doubts are raised and since people of afraid of being punished for just advocating a public policy or writing a letter to congress in the first place. I would request you to not reproduce posts here or on portal that would echo the material the plants fear and doubts among members.
--logiclife.
There are many people who would just run away from effort when doubts are raised and since people of afraid of being punished for just advocating a public policy or writing a letter to congress in the first place. I would request you to not reproduce posts here or on portal that would echo the material the plants fear and doubts among members.
--logiclife.
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sanbaj
07-28 03:49 PM
:confused: I have
EB2 140 Approved Feb 2006
EB3 140 approved June 2004
My Lawyer says that when they filed my 485 in July 2007, they sent both 140 petitions. IS THAT POSSIBLE ?
Now that the dates got current in Aug 2008 bulletin , I asked them to proceed further so that my case could be adjudicated.
They suggested me to wait and see since ,now, my original EB2 is current anyways.
My question is, Is there any way to find out which category (EB2 OR EB3)will USCIS consider my 485 case to be ?
Should I request infopass now or wait ?
Yes, in my opinion, you can file with two I140s, especially, if you want to use category of one and PD of the other. You can find the PD for your 485 on your 485 RN and from that you can deduce that they are looking at EB3 or EB2 I140.
Waiting for Aug/08 and calling USCIS for opening a SR is the good way to ask them to work on your case.
Best of Luck.
EB2 140 Approved Feb 2006
EB3 140 approved June 2004
My Lawyer says that when they filed my 485 in July 2007, they sent both 140 petitions. IS THAT POSSIBLE ?
Now that the dates got current in Aug 2008 bulletin , I asked them to proceed further so that my case could be adjudicated.
They suggested me to wait and see since ,now, my original EB2 is current anyways.
My question is, Is there any way to find out which category (EB2 OR EB3)will USCIS consider my 485 case to be ?
Should I request infopass now or wait ?
Yes, in my opinion, you can file with two I140s, especially, if you want to use category of one and PD of the other. You can find the PD for your 485 on your 485 RN and from that you can deduce that they are looking at EB3 or EB2 I140.
Waiting for Aug/08 and calling USCIS for opening a SR is the good way to ask them to work on your case.
Best of Luck.
go_guy123
06-24 12:23 PM
No way CIR or any form of amnesty for illegal will happen in the next few year.
Immigration is one thing where majority of Americans are united in controlling illegal population.
It can pass Senate but House it will never pass.
Moment CIR comes up, the right wing will arouse the masses. House members focus on more
local issues and in many districts people don't want illegal amnesty or CIR. They want a crackdown.
Democratic members in the House will never pass CIR against a Republican opposition otherwise they will pay a heavy price in the election.
In fact democratic party was able to get the house by selecting conservation candidates in the
conservative districts. That is was the Howard dean/Rahm Emanuel strategy. Select candidates who can win rather than candidates who are steadfast with core democratic party principles.
Thus you have democratic party members like Jim Webb who are ardent supporters of the NRA
(pro guns) in a state like Virginia.
Lamar Smith, Zoe Lofgren, Xavier Becerra,Howard Berman, Lincoln D�az-Balart, Luis Guti�rrez, Nydia Vel�zquez,
Adam Putnam, Anthony Weiner.....all run in Hispanic leaning districts and therefore want CIR. But Congress members
from other districts cant support this.
Senators support doent matter much because in the past (2006), it did pass the Senate but it dropped dead in the
Congress.
Immigration is one thing where majority of Americans are united in controlling illegal population.
It can pass Senate but House it will never pass.
Moment CIR comes up, the right wing will arouse the masses. House members focus on more
local issues and in many districts people don't want illegal amnesty or CIR. They want a crackdown.
Democratic members in the House will never pass CIR against a Republican opposition otherwise they will pay a heavy price in the election.
In fact democratic party was able to get the house by selecting conservation candidates in the
conservative districts. That is was the Howard dean/Rahm Emanuel strategy. Select candidates who can win rather than candidates who are steadfast with core democratic party principles.
Thus you have democratic party members like Jim Webb who are ardent supporters of the NRA
(pro guns) in a state like Virginia.
Lamar Smith, Zoe Lofgren, Xavier Becerra,Howard Berman, Lincoln D�az-Balart, Luis Guti�rrez, Nydia Vel�zquez,
Adam Putnam, Anthony Weiner.....all run in Hispanic leaning districts and therefore want CIR. But Congress members
from other districts cant support this.
Senators support doent matter much because in the past (2006), it did pass the Senate but it dropped dead in the
Congress.
sanbaj
03-27 11:56 AM
Hello Sanbaj, where did you send your interfiling request ? I mean which center ? I am also in same situation but I did not send the original I-140 approval copy.
NSC. I got the RNs from there.
NSC. I got the RNs from there.
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