gc_check
04-13 10:38 PM
Do you or anyone who thinks that backlogs are due to labor substitution have any proof to claim so ?
Even if there were some, they definitely won't be in large numbers. First of all to use a sub labor, one labor had to become available. Do you think there were so many labors floating around to grab one ? I don't think so.
How come EB3 ROW went "U" if all the backlog was due to labor subs ?
Well, There are many people still waiting for GC with original labor and not substitute labor with PD 2003 or prior to that. I'm not saying Sub Labor is the only reason, but it is one of the reason. Even though they are few...the impact is big... With 7% per country limit and visa numbers looks like would not spill over to EB3 due to demand in EB2 and other categories, even very few (say 3000 - 6000 labor sub applications) could consume a year or 2 years worth of visa numbers for this category for retro countries.... Even each family member (dependent) would consume a visa... with atleat 2 visa per applicant, 3000 - 5000 total EB3 labor sub could easily consume 2 years quote... if you count all.. then the "U" in VB might make sense... For EB3 ROW, there are lotz of people from Canada, S. Korea, Thailand, Australia, UK etc, and it went 'U' from 2003... The dates could move well for ROW... but for retrogressed country, I do not see the bright side yet.... Also the 485 PD was current for all categories almost all of 2003 & 2004 till Dec 31 2004, It retrogressed starting from Jan 2005 and later.... Also, the total 140,000 is for all EB categories. The 3000 - 5000 is just a conservative realistic guess.. not based on any data. Do the Math !!! You might agree !!!
Even if there were some, they definitely won't be in large numbers. First of all to use a sub labor, one labor had to become available. Do you think there were so many labors floating around to grab one ? I don't think so.
How come EB3 ROW went "U" if all the backlog was due to labor subs ?
Well, There are many people still waiting for GC with original labor and not substitute labor with PD 2003 or prior to that. I'm not saying Sub Labor is the only reason, but it is one of the reason. Even though they are few...the impact is big... With 7% per country limit and visa numbers looks like would not spill over to EB3 due to demand in EB2 and other categories, even very few (say 3000 - 6000 labor sub applications) could consume a year or 2 years worth of visa numbers for this category for retro countries.... Even each family member (dependent) would consume a visa... with atleat 2 visa per applicant, 3000 - 5000 total EB3 labor sub could easily consume 2 years quote... if you count all.. then the "U" in VB might make sense... For EB3 ROW, there are lotz of people from Canada, S. Korea, Thailand, Australia, UK etc, and it went 'U' from 2003... The dates could move well for ROW... but for retrogressed country, I do not see the bright side yet.... Also the 485 PD was current for all categories almost all of 2003 & 2004 till Dec 31 2004, It retrogressed starting from Jan 2005 and later.... Also, the total 140,000 is for all EB categories. The 3000 - 5000 is just a conservative realistic guess.. not based on any data. Do the Math !!! You might agree !!!
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eastindia
04-15 09:54 AM
Instead of wasting time and arguing with others, why don't we start a Blog with this theme. You can put all these facts and the way other countries are doing the immigration process for the professionals. This may attract every one including the Government. In the mean time, we can start sending emails to the Congress men also.
After all these posts your plan of action is to start a blog and send emails to Congress. :D
Is that all you can think of? I suggest you educate yourself first on how laws in Congress are changed. Talk to others who were able to change laws in Congress. Then find out how they did it, money they spent, time it took and people it took.
In this country if you want to do anything via congress you have to lobby. Tell me one bill in this country that was passed because someone created a blog and emailed congress.
After all these posts your plan of action is to start a blog and send emails to Congress. :D
Is that all you can think of? I suggest you educate yourself first on how laws in Congress are changed. Talk to others who were able to change laws in Congress. Then find out how they did it, money they spent, time it took and people it took.
In this country if you want to do anything via congress you have to lobby. Tell me one bill in this country that was passed because someone created a blog and emailed congress.
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gauravsh
08-12 03:03 PM
I decided to move to india now. I have I140 cleared and having a permanent job. But enough is enough!
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.
I think this is right decision at this time.
Any suggestions/feedback guys?
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.
I think this is right decision at this time.
Any suggestions/feedback guys?
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paskal
07-11 11:11 AM
first: my use of an extreme example to explain the EB category difference seems to have caused misunderstanding and offence among some people. this was not the intention, no slight was intended to anyone. sometimes one uses an extreme situation to make a point (3 yr degree in this case). I was not trying to stereotype and if that is how it came through...here is my humble apology.
i did reply to some of the posters by pm and had some intresting comments/discussion. its one of the nice things about this forum that people bring different insights into a problem...
qvadis, there is fundamental difference between allotting Employment based Gc on the basis of country of birth and based on job classifications/requirements. One happens to pertain to employment, the other is simply a way to mantain ahem "purity".
having said that, i do not favor the removal of country quotas in isolation- the redistribution of dates would make things better for long suffering people but it would not change the overall picture. therefore i support the package in its entirity (as does IV), ie recapture + STEM exemption + removal of country quotas. this would bring in substantially increased numbers and resolve the problem with ROW dates.
now that its established that this thread will not go back to its original intent, do the OPs mind if i close it? may be best to restart the discussion in a new thread?
i did reply to some of the posters by pm and had some intresting comments/discussion. its one of the nice things about this forum that people bring different insights into a problem...
qvadis, there is fundamental difference between allotting Employment based Gc on the basis of country of birth and based on job classifications/requirements. One happens to pertain to employment, the other is simply a way to mantain ahem "purity".
having said that, i do not favor the removal of country quotas in isolation- the redistribution of dates would make things better for long suffering people but it would not change the overall picture. therefore i support the package in its entirity (as does IV), ie recapture + STEM exemption + removal of country quotas. this would bring in substantially increased numbers and resolve the problem with ROW dates.
now that its established that this thread will not go back to its original intent, do the OPs mind if i close it? may be best to restart the discussion in a new thread?
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pointlesswait
02-27 04:32 PM
that guy was unbelievable... he sounded more white than the hick who wrote that speech.
if he is rep. party nominee for 2012.. i will be a million $, obama will win..hands down.
On a positive note, the best that we can do is, learn from our surroundings. We can learn a lot from Republicans to understand what not to do.
One of the main reason why Obama enjoys high rating - Republican party sucks. Who is making Republican party look bad - Republicans. The best response to Obama is not to pitch twisted Jindal against Obama, because that just makes Obama look good and it help Democrats. The better response to Obama is, let Obama respond against Obama. So simply don't respond to Obama, which will prevent Republicans making him look good. And like every politician, Obama will commit mistakes, which will cause the demise of Democrats. Its that simple. So what do we learn from this?
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if he is rep. party nominee for 2012.. i will be a million $, obama will win..hands down.
On a positive note, the best that we can do is, learn from our surroundings. We can learn a lot from Republicans to understand what not to do.
One of the main reason why Obama enjoys high rating - Republican party sucks. Who is making Republican party look bad - Republicans. The best response to Obama is not to pitch twisted Jindal against Obama, because that just makes Obama look good and it help Democrats. The better response to Obama is, let Obama respond against Obama. So simply don't respond to Obama, which will prevent Republicans making him look good. And like every politician, Obama will commit mistakes, which will cause the demise of Democrats. Its that simple. So what do we learn from this?
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sweet_jungle
09-11 04:58 AM
Did you try this campaign?
Matthew Oh has posted an appeal to USCIS to make sure no visa number is wasted , in light of the grim October bulletin.
If he can make an appeal, why are we not making an effort for our own good?I still see TSC giving some approvals very slowly. NSC just sucks. I believe NSC did all this in retaliation to the faxes people sent in to complain slow processing, which were very justified faxes.
I see some accusations labelled at me about selfish EB2 motives. This is not about EB2. Even if dates are current, NSC is sleeping from last week of August. We cannot just allow them to arbitrarily close the gate whenever they want. People are allowed to file 485s till Sep 30. Consular processing applicants will go through. We, I485 pending applicants will just watch like idiots. The issue here is to make USCIS work on basis of visa bulletin, which is what they are supposed to do. Someday after say re-capture bill passes, say Eb3 is current. Then, what guarantee is there that NSC will not repeat the same fiasco?
I fully appreciate the need to direct efforts towards re-capture bill. But, this issue is equally important.
I am totally furstrated by the lack of mobilization in this direction. I request everybody to so something in the remaining 20 days.
Sweet_jungle and Bawa,
Thank you for your initiative. After the raised and dashed hopes over the past 2-3 months (August, Sept & Oct 2008 visa bulletins) I am BLOODY angry about this RIDICULOUSLY fecked up system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell am I subjecting myself to this indignity!!
Here is a letter I drafted that I'd like to send to the Ombudsman .. could you'll help me edit/revise the content and also, please provide me with the contact info for the ombudsman?
we could also write letters to highlight this to Congresswoman Lofgren as well as publish it in media outlets?
Thanks!
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the Indian legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am
writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration �services�
provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous times when there have been erratic movements in the published visa bulletin dates. As a result the DOS either under- or over-estimates the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. When the date moves forward by too large a window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that???
Indian employment-based immigrants are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America�s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS.
3) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled � we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of this extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later.
Thanking you,
Matthew Oh has posted an appeal to USCIS to make sure no visa number is wasted , in light of the grim October bulletin.
If he can make an appeal, why are we not making an effort for our own good?I still see TSC giving some approvals very slowly. NSC just sucks. I believe NSC did all this in retaliation to the faxes people sent in to complain slow processing, which were very justified faxes.
I see some accusations labelled at me about selfish EB2 motives. This is not about EB2. Even if dates are current, NSC is sleeping from last week of August. We cannot just allow them to arbitrarily close the gate whenever they want. People are allowed to file 485s till Sep 30. Consular processing applicants will go through. We, I485 pending applicants will just watch like idiots. The issue here is to make USCIS work on basis of visa bulletin, which is what they are supposed to do. Someday after say re-capture bill passes, say Eb3 is current. Then, what guarantee is there that NSC will not repeat the same fiasco?
I fully appreciate the need to direct efforts towards re-capture bill. But, this issue is equally important.
I am totally furstrated by the lack of mobilization in this direction. I request everybody to so something in the remaining 20 days.
Sweet_jungle and Bawa,
Thank you for your initiative. After the raised and dashed hopes over the past 2-3 months (August, Sept & Oct 2008 visa bulletins) I am BLOODY angry about this RIDICULOUSLY fecked up system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell am I subjecting myself to this indignity!!
Here is a letter I drafted that I'd like to send to the Ombudsman .. could you'll help me edit/revise the content and also, please provide me with the contact info for the ombudsman?
we could also write letters to highlight this to Congresswoman Lofgren as well as publish it in media outlets?
Thanks!
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the Indian legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am
writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration �services�
provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous times when there have been erratic movements in the published visa bulletin dates. As a result the DOS either under- or over-estimates the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. When the date moves forward by too large a window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that???
Indian employment-based immigrants are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America�s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS.
3) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled � we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of this extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later.
Thanking you,
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abhijitp
12-03 05:40 PM
We have four full weeks, let us make this happen. I will pitch in 50 bucks for every 2500 that we reach.
Thanks for your gesture!
Let's keep this thread on top!
Thanks for your gesture!
Let's keep this thread on top!
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homers
03-09 12:07 PM
Contributed $25 for the FOIA request drive.
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vpadman
07-17 07:07 PM
Great work IV!!!
Thanks for your efforts.
Thanks for your efforts.
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pappu
12-18 05:19 PM
Thank you very much for starting this campaign. After this was started, the drought for the past few days has ended and 4 members have contributed today till now. Thank you very much for starting this. We will be able to use all our resources in the coming months to get something done if we have sufficient funds that meet our target of 60K by December end. If all members get active, there is no doubt that we will succeed very soon.
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ragz4u
04-20 09:54 AM
Your first post seemed asking only career wise successful folks who have patents/inovations and are affected by retrogression. I did write my story and then reread your first post, then thought to myself: my story is just similar to that Italian lady! The only thing different is she probably would have gotten her green card without much trouble, unlike my process.
Please let me know if you need ordinary story like mine, non-IT, mother and having been waiting for many years. Thanks.
I apologize for any miscommunication on my part.
Let me be very clear about what we are looking for
Your story about how you are affected by retrogression/back log etc. It could be as simple as 'I have a BS in Engineering and am stuck in back log for 2 years and cannot fulfil my dreams professionally' to 'I have a PhD in Nuclear Science and US needs me coz there are only a handful of us!' Anything and everything works.
I have literally recieved stories of stay at home moms (because of H4 they cannot work) to folks who have been interviewed by MIT! The whole spectrum helps.....please please send us your stories...we need all the weapons when we go face the senators on behalf of IV
As another fellow IV member who just sent me his story clearly mentioned, and I quote him
'Hope my story adds another spoke in the wheel. The thought of having to wait 2-3 or even more years just to be able to file the I-485 is damning. It's time to quit whining and do something about it. Want y'all to know that I'm available to help out in any way I can.'
Please let me know if you need ordinary story like mine, non-IT, mother and having been waiting for many years. Thanks.
I apologize for any miscommunication on my part.
Let me be very clear about what we are looking for
Your story about how you are affected by retrogression/back log etc. It could be as simple as 'I have a BS in Engineering and am stuck in back log for 2 years and cannot fulfil my dreams professionally' to 'I have a PhD in Nuclear Science and US needs me coz there are only a handful of us!' Anything and everything works.
I have literally recieved stories of stay at home moms (because of H4 they cannot work) to folks who have been interviewed by MIT! The whole spectrum helps.....please please send us your stories...we need all the weapons when we go face the senators on behalf of IV
As another fellow IV member who just sent me his story clearly mentioned, and I quote him
'Hope my story adds another spoke in the wheel. The thought of having to wait 2-3 or even more years just to be able to file the I-485 is damning. It's time to quit whining and do something about it. Want y'all to know that I'm available to help out in any way I can.'
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number30
05-11 05:20 PM
You have become a citizen. What is your vested interest in pursuing this divisive discussion ?
Stay away from IV. We don't need your inputs here.
Admins,
number30 is likely an anti-immigrant. Please ban him.
Wah! What did you see anti immigrant in my post? Can you please elaborate?
Stay away from IV. We don't need your inputs here.
Admins,
number30 is likely an anti-immigrant. Please ban him.
Wah! What did you see anti immigrant in my post? Can you please elaborate?
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04-14 07:02 PM
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone got the receipt number for either premium or non-premium.
Thank you.
I was wondering if anyone got the receipt number for either premium or non-premium.
Thank you.
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gcisadawg
04-13 10:06 PM
This ain't nothing. Wait until the second wave of labor substituted EB3 applicants port their case from EB3 to EB2 or EB1 .Talk about a double whammy. Except a bigger hit in the next year or two when most of the porting succeeds.
Labor substitution may be legal but it is unethical. When everything depends on when you join the queue, how can one cut the line?
Whereas EB3 to EB2 porting is both legal and ethical. When you have a EB3 applicant that is waiting in line for 8 years, he/she had already gathered that much experience based on his long wait. Also, if you look at EB2, it is one of the highly abused category. The EB3 applicant who started in 2001 has joined the line half a decade before the one with 2006 Eb2 PD. One can't really accuse him/her for cutting the line just like one can about substitutes! If the EB3 porting case deserves merit, then I strongly support it!
My intention is not to to start a fight. But we need to see the true picture. Without acknowledging the problem how can we fix it?
Bottom line, GC abuses need to stop and we should fight for it as much as we fight for our rights to get GC!
Labor substitution may be legal but it is unethical. When everything depends on when you join the queue, how can one cut the line?
Whereas EB3 to EB2 porting is both legal and ethical. When you have a EB3 applicant that is waiting in line for 8 years, he/she had already gathered that much experience based on his long wait. Also, if you look at EB2, it is one of the highly abused category. The EB3 applicant who started in 2001 has joined the line half a decade before the one with 2006 Eb2 PD. One can't really accuse him/her for cutting the line just like one can about substitutes! If the EB3 porting case deserves merit, then I strongly support it!
My intention is not to to start a fight. But we need to see the true picture. Without acknowledging the problem how can we fix it?
Bottom line, GC abuses need to stop and we should fight for it as much as we fight for our rights to get GC!
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hopefulgc
09-12 11:26 AM
Email, snail mail, snake mail ... lets do everything.
Do we email or snail mail these letters/posters?
Do we email or snail mail these letters/posters?
diptam
09-08 12:03 AM
Wooo... wah ...wah.. wah .. great Sherman... Is this what you mean ??
You dont care about Jobs being internationally outsourced but you do care about a guy sitting next to you and delivering better output than you... That means you fear competition OR you dont like a guy sitting next to you because he is a Macaca... ??
What ever option you choose it defeats America !! And still want to call yourself patriotic American ? America is the land of best and brightest - its the competition and drive which keeps a free,Capitalist society alive...
By the way you still didn't provide me the source how 75% folks are having under-grad degree and what % of that is in S/T/Engg/Math ....
Dont hesitate to respond - we all know the answer. Just want to hear from you.
Jobs in America is for Americans. If at all it gets outsourced to your country then it is yours. But as long as that job is in my country, I will defend it and not let some Strive or Skill act take it away from me.
You dont care about Jobs being internationally outsourced but you do care about a guy sitting next to you and delivering better output than you... That means you fear competition OR you dont like a guy sitting next to you because he is a Macaca... ??
What ever option you choose it defeats America !! And still want to call yourself patriotic American ? America is the land of best and brightest - its the competition and drive which keeps a free,Capitalist society alive...
By the way you still didn't provide me the source how 75% folks are having under-grad degree and what % of that is in S/T/Engg/Math ....
Dont hesitate to respond - we all know the answer. Just want to hear from you.
Jobs in America is for Americans. If at all it gets outsourced to your country then it is yours. But as long as that job is in my country, I will defend it and not let some Strive or Skill act take it away from me.
bosuca
07-17 11:04 PM
:) Thanks a lot to all members for being with us in this struggle. We have tasted our first big success this year. Credit goes to each and every IV member. We were all affected by the visa bulletin fiasco and this is our victory. This is a victory for all our members and we must rejoice.
IV had worked very hard and had been pushing for this in the background. Our flower campaign, rally and other advocacy efforts all came together and helped us at a crunch time. We thank members that sent flowers and also walked in the San Jose heat for 4 hours. All that really shows our commitment to this cause.
We are happy that our efforts are successful and IV has been able to make a difference. Please also know that during this effort, IV was extremely active and decision makers heard our voice. We cannot give out all the details but what IV members should know is that these efforts should make each one of us proud and what we can do if we have a firm resolve. We were also the first to break this news even before anyone else or media could, and continued to update our members as time passed.
IV also thanks its contributing members and it is because of their contributions we were able to continue this effort. Many thanks to the members that are contributing now after this good news.
Please continue your support for this organization and be an integral member of this ever growing community, so that this journey can continue and we can end retrogression and have immigrationvoice as our voice.
Team IV
IV had worked very hard and had been pushing for this in the background. Our flower campaign, rally and other advocacy efforts all came together and helped us at a crunch time. We thank members that sent flowers and also walked in the San Jose heat for 4 hours. All that really shows our commitment to this cause.
We are happy that our efforts are successful and IV has been able to make a difference. Please also know that during this effort, IV was extremely active and decision makers heard our voice. We cannot give out all the details but what IV members should know is that these efforts should make each one of us proud and what we can do if we have a firm resolve. We were also the first to break this news even before anyone else or media could, and continued to update our members as time passed.
IV also thanks its contributing members and it is because of their contributions we were able to continue this effort. Many thanks to the members that are contributing now after this good news.
Please continue your support for this organization and be an integral member of this ever growing community, so that this journey can continue and we can end retrogression and have immigrationvoice as our voice.
Team IV
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